Partial transcript from ‘After the Carver’ Episode 2 #2
Some people might think we’re being a little arrogant—or even downright ridiculous—here. Just two unqualified young women who think they somehow know better than FBI agents and detectives. But that’s not it. We don’t think we know better.
FREYA:
It’s just like we said in our pre-launch episode: we want this to be a community effort.
Not just us. Because we truly believe that there are people out there who know something, and they might not even realize they know it, because they’ve always assumed that it’s not relevant.
But if we all come together, then maybe we can start to fill in the cracks.
KENNEDY:
Exactly. So, without further ado, here’s the known connections between the victims.
Firstly, my father and Christopher Miles knew each other, as they both worked at the same hospital.
But they worked in vastly different medical fields.
My dad was a surgeon and Christopher was a psych nurse, so while they crossed paths from time to time, their relationship didn’t stretch beyond work acquaintances.
FREYA:
Then there’s Natalie Jagger and Lila Granger.
They regularly attended the same gym on Seventh Avenue in downtown Corwin Bay.
But we’ve had a look, and neither followed the other on socials.
In this day and age, and especially with Natalie’s social media career, that means something.
And if you ask me, it most likely means that they didn’t know each other, or at least weren’t friends.
They may have never even crossed paths at the gym.
KENNEDY:
Jenna Roth, Elliot Parr, Heather Voss, and Christopher Miles all attended the same church.
St. Bartholomew’s on Marigold Avenue. So that’s a connection between four of the victims. But police looked into it and found nothing concerning.
The church is just a run-of-the-mill Anglican congregation in the heart of Corwin Bay.
It isn’t some sort of weird cultish organization, as a few people have theorized over the years.
FREYA:
Yeah, I actually went to that church as a kid, and believe me, they’re not hiding anything. It’s just a regular church, and the congregants were hit really hard by the disappearances of their fellow members.
KENNEDY:
So does that mean you actually knew some of the victims personally? Apart from my dad, I mean.
FREYA:
No, my family only went to church on really big days, like Easter and Christmas Eve. So we weren’t familiar with most of the congregants. Just a few.
KENNEDY:
Ah. But still, that must have scared you as a child; knowing that these people had a slight connection to you.
FREYA:
Oh, yeah. It freaked me out really badly.
Especially because I was friends with you, so we were already terrified and traumatized about what happened to your dad.
Then, with four church members vanishing in the months after that…
. it just added another layer of fear. Like…
when is this going to stop happening? Is it even going to stop?
KENNEDY:
I remember that feeling really well. I still feel it sometimes.
FREYA:
Yeah, I think all our local listeners can understand that. It’s a horrible feeling, and it never really goes away.
[Brief reflective pause]
For now, let’s get back to the bigger picture. We were talking about the connections between the victims, weren’t we?
KENNEDY:
Yup, that’s right. Let’s get back to those now.
FREYA:
As a lawyer specializing in IP and cybersecurity law, Brian Delgado occasionally consulted at Silas Boone’s tech company.
Silas was also in the same PTA as Heather Voss, as their children attended Corwin Bay Grammar School together.
So Silas was quite closely associated with two of the other victims. But again, they weren’t friends. It was purely tangential association.
KENNEDY:
Theresa Linwood’s book club had a large number of connections. At least seven of the other victims attended her club over the years before the Carver case began. My father, Brian Delgado, Oscar Raines, Silas Boone, Christopher Miles, Heather Doyle, and Heather Voss were all members at some point.
FREYA:
But it was a hugely popular book club. Six sessions per week, split into multiple smaller sub-groups to discuss different books from different genres. Over five hundred members at its peak. So once again, police put this down to small-city coincidence.
KENNEDY:
Some of you may have already picked up on the fact that two of the victims shared a first name. Heather Voss and Heather Doyle. Over the years, many people have speculated that this might’ve meant something to the Carver. But no one knows for sure except the Carver himself.
FREYA:
Some of you may have also put something else together while listening in. Marcus Cheung shared zero known connections with any of the other victims, whereas the other victims all shared something , even if it was tiny. Like Natalie and Lila attending the same gym, for instance.
KENNEDY:
And there are other victims who had a lot of connections with the others. Like Christopher Miles, who was vaguely acquainted with a whopping eight victims through his work, church, and the book club.
FREYA:
But that’s the frustrating part. There was no universal link. No single victim knew everyone. And when you zoom out… there’s just nothing that ties all thirteen together. At least nothing that we currently know about.
KENNEDY:
We're going to take a quick break now. But when we come back, we’ll dig into what the local police believed those scattered connections might mean, and what the FBI had to say when they finally stepped in.
We’re also going to talk to someone who was followed home by a black car the same night Heather Voss disappeared. Was this a near miss for a potential victim? Or yet another coincidence in an already-long string of coincidences in the Carver case?
[Music fades out into a brief transitional sting for mid-episode break]
[End of partial transcript]